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Dragon Ball University

Dragon Ball University

Пре 2 године

To celebrate the 4 year anniversary of DBU, join us as we marathon the series that got it all started!

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MessYouUp Пре годину
Team four star has left such an impact on me I forgot the wedding between Yajirobe and Korin wasn’t cannon
Leroy Demery
Leroy Demery Пре дан
Dude just remember as you said it. That's cannon idd
Zero Attention Gaming
Zero Attention Gaming Пре дан
@Moike Toithon Fan made doesn't mean not real, it exists, people have watched it, that makes it factually a real thing. It is certainly not official or canon but it was never trying to be. It's a loving parody of the series, meant to be for fun, by a group of people who grew up loving Dragonball. Nobody ever claimed DBZA was official or canon. Team Four Star themselves outright say at the start of every single episode that DBZA is an unofficial fan parody and tell people to support the official series. Fun fact though, at least Chris Sabat, official dub voice of Vegeta and Piccolo as well as director of the English dub has actually done a voice cameo in DBZA's version of Super Android 13. TFS also got to be in a deleted scene for the dub of Dragonball Kai's Buu Saga, the actors reenacting Mr Satan's version of the Cell Games were voiced by the DBZA cast. Several of the TFS cast got to work on official Funimation dubs because Chris Sabat really enjoyed their work and skill as voice actors, which wouldn't have happened without them making DBZA.
Justin Moran
Justin Moran Пре 2 дана
@DuckShoes dude goku was an excellent father for at least the four first years, then he died saving gohan, then he got his body stolen saving gohan, then he got sent to another planet saving gohan and the crew, then he trained for 3 years along with gohan, then he spent another year with gohan, then he helped gohan relaize his true potential, then he died attempting to save gohan from cell, then in post mortem he helped save gohan, then in buu saga he came back to save gohan. I could go on and on. All goku ever does is care for gohan.
Justin Moran
Justin Moran Пре 2 дана
@IvyCarnivora more like super fuhrer guru
Hubbard Пре 4 месеца
The three iconic symbols of the DBZ movie timeline: 1. Icarus 2. Picnics and camping trips 3. Waterfalls
Ram K 23
Ram K 23 Пре 12 сати
And you forgot about K A K A R O T
Captain D. Bijutsukan
Captain D. Bijutsukan Пре дан
And the use of hairstyles.
Captain D. Bijutsukan
Captain D. Bijutsukan Пре дан
Also clothing.
The Forgotten Game Corner
The Forgotten Game Corner Пре 2 дана
@Robert McGath Stretch arms are canon since the original DB series. Toriyama probably forgot about it or just didn't want to do it in Z because it is a pain to draw like Cell's spots.
CoralCopperHead Пре 3 дана
@gena980 aaaaaaaaa Wanna go drive cars again?
The Lone Wanderer
The Lone Wanderer Пре 6 месеци
Trunk’s sword had been broken several times, it was also broken by android 13. It’s either magic or he simply has it fixed or replaced once broken. On a side note mercenary Tao had a sword capsule. So it’s possible trunks simply got replacements from Bulma.
The Lone Wanderer
The Lone Wanderer Пре 3 дана
@CoralCopperHead that’s the z sword. It’s a different sword
CoralCopperHead Пре 3 дана
I always assumed it was magic and repaired itself. Wasn't it given to him by Supreme Kai?
Lincoln Aszhal
Lincoln Aszhal Пре 17 дана
@The Lone Wanderer Ohhh. I wish the design was the same as the sword Kid Gohan got from piccolo, but he and piccolo abandon it. A fitting, yet weird Easter egg for Future Gohan to do.
The Lone Wanderer
The Lone Wanderer Пре 17 дана
@Lincoln Aszhal It was given to him by Gohan in the alternate timeline. Not much else is known.
Lincoln Aszhal
Lincoln Aszhal Пре 17 дана
The fact that they made a cameo for Future Trunks in wrath of the dragon does not really explain why Future Trunks had a sword to begin with. xDDD
Officer Doggy - TIMMEH
Officer Doggy - TIMMEH Пре 4 месеца
“Frieza’s plans were ultimately cut short by a mysterious youth” I get it lol
Toby Garton
Toby Garton Пре 12 дана
@Death of the Ego yes!!!
Toby Garton
Toby Garton Пре 12 дана
Friezas plans were cut so short by a mysterious youth he actually wanted to wish to be taller from the dragon balls
Death of the Ego
Death of the Ego Пре 20 дана
Icarus should be canon
Zak1999 Пре месец
Doo Doo
Doo Doo Пре месец
C papu misterioso
Pensive Scarlet
Pensive Scarlet Пре 4 месеца
With the popularity of all the Dragon Ball what-if stories these days, I'd love to see one based on the Garlic Jr. timeline. Not just in-universe, but out-of-universe. Like, what if Goku wasn't even a Saiyan? What if the story never went sci-fi and instead stayed more fantasy? *What if Goku never stopped using his Pole and Nimbus!?*
The Radionic Revival
The Radionic Revival Пре 11 дана
@Novo Mundo I wouldn’t take that too harshly, a lot of dragonball fans idea of a “good story” is throwing broly and bardock into places where they don’t belong and just crash into things as the world explodes. You do you lol, you would’ve naturally ironed out a lot of the plot details anyways jf you just went through with writing it. Spitting out bad ideas is more useful than not spitting any at all. It helps you better compare and see what ideas do and don’t work. When you got the time, i hope you get back into writing again. not even about DB, just about anything in general, you seem to have some really great ideas, why not use them?
The Radionic Revival
The Radionic Revival Пре 11 дана
I think more or less the series would just be what one piece is, but with that “writes by the seat of his pants”, comedic toriyama flarez
Pensive Scarlet
Pensive Scarlet Пре 15 дана
@Harriet R. I mean, I guess we could work in something like Tree of Might at some point. Throw in one alien invasion, you know? ;D
Harriet R.
Harriet R. Пре 15 дана
Honestly, I wouldn't enjoy a non-fantasy version of DBZ, have psychics and alien species and ki/chi/qi powers and realm of Kai, Jigoku and the other underworlds and heavens exist all at the same time is strangely my cup of tea, it's the Fantastique fan curse. Though Goku using his Nimbus and Monkey King's staff or Piccolo Jr incorporating his arm stretching into his movement would've been great.
JakeTheSnake Пре годину
The movies have always been something of a separate timeline. That’s why I enjoyed the xenoverse games. The fact that your patrolling different timelines means you can experience these movies and they can sort of exist. But the games are obviously non canon too. It’s just a lot of fun. I enjoy the one mission where goku and vegeta are trying to become super Saiyan gods but go super saiyan 4 instead and don’t know if that’s the god form.
stackfl0w Пре месец
I view the dragon ball movies the same way I view the star wars sequels: they exist in their own alternate timeline bubble so canon isn't broken and I don't gotta think about plot holes lol. Actually a lot of anime movies don't fit timelines well and are hardly referenced in the shows, so I tend to view many of them on their own anyway...
Kujo Jotaro
Kujo Jotaro Пре месец
@Zuxyr It seriously isn't canon at all
GrimAhren Пре 5 месеци
It's from DLC "Extra Pack 2". Like someone already said, you have to talk to Fu and do those missions. Here's a video of the mission where "canon" Goku fights against Goku and Vegeta SSJ4. For this to happen you need Goku as a mentor, but you can do this mission with any mentor you want and still fight Goku and Vegeta in their SSJ4 form. The mission is the same, but the banter between the AI is different. rstoolss.info/long/video/mZWW0ImmwmahaH4
MondoTheMenace Пре 5 месеци
Finally somebody that understands it
D Neal
D Neal Пре 5 месеци
@Zain nah i have the game and that mission is definitley real its a dlc mission
Devin Person
Devin Person Пре 6 месеци
Man, cells quite a gentleman waiting like 3 movies for them to come to the tournament lol
Light Lati
Light Lati Пре 8 дана
Call was too busy dreaming about absorbing Krillin and being killed by Tien and Yamcha.
DM_Otaku Пре 11 дана
Goku did say he trained for a whole day
Isaiah Daniels
Isaiah Daniels Пре 28 дана
@Robert H I'd KILL for a He-tap
lightning storm
lightning storm Пре месец
He was chilling with Kermit and Shallot
Gaia Пре месец
@Robert White Johnson It is :)
Sean Wilkinson
Sean Wilkinson Пре 3 месеца
At the time of release, there was one reason why Tree Of Might (and the Broly trilogy) couldn't have happened. That comes down to one of the Saiyans (Raditz or Vegeta, I can't remember which) stating that only four Saiyans survived their planet's destruction. Canonically, we can assume this means Goku, Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta. Therefore, Turles and Broly cannot exist, and their movies cannot happen. Of course, we've since had Tarble and Broly retconned into the main story, so anything is possible. But at the time? Nope. The only films from the original thirteen that I feel could logically fit are Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon.
Alex Zero
Alex Zero Пре 2 дана
Ye, my mistake.
Sean Wilkinson
Sean Wilkinson Пре 2 дана
@Alex Zero think you mean Turles. Tarble was from an anniversary special, not a movie, and he was too milquetoast to be a rebel.
Sean Wilkinson
Sean Wilkinson Пре 2 дана
@Ralegade Saiyan population (easy to Google) was ten thousand, not "billions." Much easier to monitor, especially with Freiza/Tsufurian tech. I agree not a perfect system, tho.
Ralegade Пре 2 дана
Vegeta isn’t omniscient. He easily could’ve been wrong. I’m sure he isn’t keeping tabs on the billions of other Saiyans.
rash b
rash b Пре 7 месеци
"Wrath of the Dragon" with whole sword thing doesn't really cancel it out, it just brings up more questions since this Trunks doesn't need to go back to the past. So the real question is how did Future Trunks get his sword from Taipion, especially with no warrior in his timeline powerful enough to beat the monster? I love the reaction just before "Why the first Broly movie can't happen." :)
Pablo Gomes Oliveira
Pablo Gomes Oliveira Пре месец
@Hexis17 yeah but we don’t know that , we are only speculating here , and even if he was weaker ( the monster ) do you really think that it would be SO much weaker? I somehow doubt that
Hexis17 Пре месец
@Pablo Gomes Oliveira since the androids were weaker in his time like vs the main one, its same to assume that the monster was weaker too, assuming we want to try to including the movie into cannon.
Pablo Gomes Oliveira
Pablo Gomes Oliveira Пре 2 месеца
Yeah but he took the time machine that bulma had as shown in super
C - ST4R!
C - ST4R! Пре 4 месеца
Your script writing is impeccable; cramming in so much key information into so few words, well done its clear you two love this series
Jason Sterling Entertainment
Jason Sterling Entertainment Пре годину
Akira Toriyama has stated that the DB movies take place in separate "what if" dimensions. Great video, all backed by the greatest DB authority of them all.
Lieutenant D4
Lieutenant D4 Пре 3 месеца
@ExHero627 i didn't see it so i assume it disappears
Veronica Jata
Veronica Jata Пре 3 месеца
@Oscar Zepeda No, it's because some of us couldn't see the link, so that's why he probably reposted it so we could see better.
Terrill Williams
Terrill Williams Пре 4 месеца
@SomethingWitty nah. Broly was too strong & that power was too new thus unmastered. They needed power like fusion to sustain the fight longer since Base Gogeta is stronger than them & has access to higher but ezier mastered power.
SomethingWitty Пре 4 месеца
@Terrill Williams if blue evolution was canon vegeta would have used it against broly since super broly is a canon movie
Bojangles Пре 5 месеци
Movie villains are movie versions of certain characters. Garlic Jr. - Raditz Dr. Wheelo - Scouter Vegeta Turles - 1st form Frieza Lord Slug - Final form Frieza Cooler - Cyborg Frieza Meta Cooler - Android 16 Super 13 - Semi perfect Cell Broly - Gohan SSJ2 Bojack - Perfect Cell Broly Second Coming - Majin Vegeta Janempa - Fat Buu Janemba - Super Buu Hirudegarn - Kid Buu Gogeta - Vegito
The thing I love abt Broly is that, he's proof that " The Legendary super saiyan awakens after a millenium" isn't bs, and that it would've actually been able to kill Frieza's whole family without a sweat, thats why Frieza was so afraid. It even beat Goku and Vegeta's SSJB
Ash Ketchum
Ash Ketchum Пре 7 дана
15:00 here's why I think the reasons you gave for coolers revenge not being able to happen are wrong: maybe Goku didn't forget he was a Super Saiyan maybe Goku was afraid of becoming Super Saiyan because he remembered how he yelled at his own kid when he first went Super Saiyan and he doesn't want that anger cuz he doesn't want to hurt his friends, also you're forgetting that Gohan's mom is Chichi the girl whose name is literally a Japanese baby word for breasts and what if Chichi just wanted to give Gohan his bowl cut again? After all it's stated in the Dragon Ball z kakarot game that Gohan had the bowl cut because of chichi. Also with his muscle build you're forgetting Gohan is a non-training a****** and so last time I checked if you don't exercise you lose your muscle mass 30:00 with trunks long hair both of those could be plausible however I believe trunks spent a year rebuilding all the damn houses because last time I checked the Androids destroyed entire cities and so I don't think he'd be enjoying a post-apocalyptic peace for a year so I think he and Bulma fixed the planet by remaking all of the machines and buildings and then traveling to namek to use the namekian Dragon balls to revive everyone killed by Android 17 and 18 excluding Gohan because with the Dragon Ball super version of trunks he either has to be the same as Dragon Ball z trunks or come from a timeline where trunks hair is blue instead of purple which is the more plausible option however both trunks have a dead Gohan and with Trunks sword you do realize that there are blacksmiths right? 46:00 with wrath of the Dragon you explain things too fast but from what I understand Chrono who you only call that cuz he looks like a Chrono trigger character because Chrono triggers character artist is actually Akira toriyama the author of Dragon Ball gave kid trunks his sword because he knew the Androids were coming but they already came which would have made the alternate fake timelines Also could you please ignore the Dragon Ball super broly movie because in games like Dragon Ball fighters both versions of broly appear together side by side and the broly the legendary Super Saiyan movie has a different reason for broly hating kakarot then Dragon Ball Super broly the movie
this is a social experiment
this is a social experiment Пре 28 дана
I generally put these videos on audio only and just let them run while I do stuff. At one point I thought this was a recap of Buu's saga. Thanks for making this, great work!
Gregory R.
Gregory R. Пре 4 месеца
You know, seeing these explanations about how they cant happen made me think on how some of the movies could have happened if you look at how certain things played out in the main Canon. Despite Garlic Jr being in the Anime, he was in a non Canon filler arc to pass the time until the Android Saga happened and I agree with what he said about DEAD ZONE being an alternate time. Same with TREE OF MIGHT, WORLD'S STONGEST and LORD SLUG. COOLER'S REVENGE is tricky cause this CAN be done if looked at with how thing were done differently in the main Canon. Goku has Super Saiyan while Krillin is back alive. So either Goku came back to Earth immediately after Beating Frieza when Gohan used the Namek Dragon Balls to wish him back home, or this took place during the 3 year time period training for the Androids. RETURN OF COOLER could not happen. Dende is the Guardian here meaning that this is during Cell being perfect. Gohan should be a "Teen" and a Super Saiyan but he isn't in this movie. Goku and Vegeta should just Curb stomp Cooler if this was the case. SUPER ANDROID 13 would imply that the Z-fighters defeated the Androids, ALL of the Androids and Killed Cell before he absorbed either 17 or 18. That could be the divergence in Canon to cause ANDROID 13 to even remotely happen. The First BROLY movie could happen if Vegeta Killed Semi Perfect Cell without getting talked into letting him take Android 18. Or Krillin killed 18 and then Vegeta killed Cell. Or Vegeta actually Killed Perfect Cell with the Final Flash by being lucky lol. BOJACK UNBOUND can happen if this happens between the 7 year skip between Cell and Buu. BROLY SECOND COMING might happen if Majin Buu wasnt able to appear but it's inconsistent to pin point. BIO BROLY is a hard Pass. FUSION REBORN can happen also. Vegeta is dead and Goku is dead and has Super Saiyan 3. Goten and Trunks can fuse. Goku mentions Majin Buu out loud to Janemba. This can take place after Goku leaves after his time is up. I think Goku kills Fat Majin Buu then teaches Goten and Trunks to fuse to help protect Earth with Gohan while he and Vegeta are dead. Gohan never turns Super Saiyan in this movie and pretty much handles all the reoccurring villains being brought back to life so he the Z sword training might have helped or never happened if Goku killed Majin Buu in this divergent Canon. Aaaaaand WRATH OF THE DRAGON might happen if this took place after Kid Buu but before BATTLE OF GODS.
Alex Zero
Alex Zero Пре 2 дана
You done the same mistake as author of the video. You say that movies are divergence to canon, but you are still trying to put them in DBZ canonical arcs. Why? In Revenge of Cooler Dende was Kami doesn't mean that Cell is perfect, because the first reason for bringing Dende to Lookout was that Kami was eaten, not some timestamp in canon timeline. BtW there's is no Cell at all, in basement of Gero lab there were androids 13 14 15, instead of Cell. Laboratory was not destroyed... that s why Gohan is not teen in android 13, he never fought Cell.
Giovanni Chardonne
Giovanni Chardonne Пре месец
Broly 100% can't happen because of DBS Super Broly
Absollum Пре 4 месеца
Fusion reborn can also happen if Gotenks/Gohan killed Super Buu. As long as Buu dies before Goku got revived, it could happen.
Brandon Anderson
Brandon Anderson Пре месец
As a child seeing the movies on CN i always wondered why they literally forgot Cell existed for three movies, then after seeing how all the characters acted, i just assumed at all the movies were not canon.
Alex Zero
Alex Zero Пре 2 дана
As Toriyama always told , movies represent a what if scenarios, alternative Dragonball World. So there just no Cell, like at all. Instead of Cell, Gero basement kept androids 13,14,15. Which are mechanical just like 16. This makes some sense since Gero was building that kind of cyborgs previously and had trust issues with 17 and 18.
SnakeEater 345
SnakeEater 345 Пре 21 дан
Someone should make a remake of the manga to fit the movies and rewrite a few moments to make it seamless tbh That would be dope
Dragon Ballz FR
Dragon Ballz FR Пре 13 дана
This is actually the primary motivation behind Dragon Ballz FR. I wanted to make a version of the show where the movies actually fit in with the rest of series. Just have to redub it all with different lines, rearrange some scenes, cut stuff, add stuff, and voila!
NJG Пре 5 месеци
I’d say Bojack could happen. For all we know, Trunks could’ve forged a new sword, either by doing it himself, which was never suggested, or getting Future Bulma to do it. I mean, DBS Trunks got a new sword, so this could be the same sword in Bojack. The staying the the future for a year and coming back is most plausible. Although it is non-canon, it is pretty easy to fit into the timeline.
Sentinal Entity
Sentinal Entity Пре месец
@Proud American Bro they're the same individual lmfao. Literally when Bulma talks about the time machine trunks left behind back in Z, he understood exactly what she was talking about. How would this be possible if Super and Z trunks weren't the same?
MZA Kami
MZA Kami Пре 4 месеца
@Proud American Goten wasn’t born in Future Trunks timeline cause Chi Chi dies before giving birth to him. Zamasu is from a different timeline. He switched bodies with Goku, then kills him and his whole family. He then uses the time ring to travel to Future Trunks timeline.
Proud American
Proud American Пре 4 месеца
@MZA Kami they are different. In Z Goten isn’t there and in the special edition of Super it’s clearly stated that he died of the heart virus. Zamasu never revived Goku as he clearly swished to swap bodies with Goku.
MZA Kami
MZA Kami Пре 4 месеца
@Proud American what are you talking about? DBS Trunks and DBZ Trunks are the same person. And Zamazu resurrected Goku and then switched bodies with him.
Proud American
Proud American Пре 4 месеца
But DBS Trunks is not related to the trunks from Dbz. Zamasu killed Goku and his family but in Dbz goku died of a heart virus
RedFroJoe Пре годину
I like how they tried setting up an alternative story line and they completely said fuck that with cooler
The Radionic Revival
The Radionic Revival Пре 11 дана
@Daniel McEachern it was the universe where goku was extra prepared
AndyMan Пре 5 месеци
@daniel hernandez Vageta said that line like 20 times before Goku actually did become one lol. So yea
Kayle Yuta
Kayle Yuta Пре 8 месеци
Gohan has a tail in that movie. Another reason it's not canon.
Prometheus Modelo W
Prometheus Modelo W Пре 10 месеци
@Khalif Rhodes oh shit
Khalif Rhodes
Khalif Rhodes Пре 10 месеци
Dreakon doesn’t namek have three suns and Goku had the spirit bomb absorb a lot of that so yeah it was really strong.
Lukky Пре 6 месеци
Back in my Childhood , all these movies confused a lot to what was canon and what was not. Regardless , i usually ignored the inconsistencies and enjoyed them for what they are.
SHADOWSTRIKE1 Пре 7 месеци
I loved Lord Slug when I was younger. I thought it was so hype when Disturbed started playing during the fight.
Green Wizard
Green Wizard Пре месец
There’s a dbs supercut that has songs in it too that’s fucking incredible. Yeah I miss those old days me and my buddies lost our mind when we saw that the first time.
Scott Fillinger 40k
Scott Fillinger 40k Пре 4 месеца
Lord slug is such a good movie
Bojangles Пре 5 месеци
Funimation went in with the music during Slug-Cooler movies. I miss nu-metal music.
RaphBlade7 Пре 4 месеца
Ah, I've finally reached the classic, the legendary OG Broly film, Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan. This is by far my favorite of the original DBZ era films (I consider any DBZ film after Wrath of the Dragon to be part of the DBZ renaissance era which (whether you hate it or love it) gave birth to DBS and its films (Super Hero is to be released at the time of this post and features the return of not only canon Broly, but features Gohan and Piccolo back in action with DBS Pan (a potential female Super Saiyan in training under the master babysitter/martial arts mentor of Saiyan children, Piccolo) as they confront the Red Ribbon Army front company Red Pharmaceuticals as its leadership seeks to resurrect the army using new Gamma series developed by Dr. Hedo who modelled them to be superheroes hence the title, along with Gohan's return, though don't know if Great Saiyaman will appear given Gohan is sporting his Demon Clothes complete with cape, though he wears his glasses instead of a turban). First off, with the release of DBS: Broly this one is kind of a moot point as we have a canonical version of Broly (Broly:BR or Canon Broly as I call him, with the original referred to as OG Broly cause he's the original incarnation). While most would agree DBS:Broly is an improvement and is currently my favorite Dragon Ball film of any era (and currently by default favorite DBS film due to Super Hero having yet to be released in theatrically and if I get the chance I'd love to see it in in theatres, though will get it Blue-Ray/DVD if that isn't possible). However Broly - The LSSJ (I use Saiya-jin, SSJ abbreviations for non-divine Super Saiyan forms cause it looks cooler) is DBZ action at its best. Broly is a tank of a villain as he takes on Super Saiyan Full Power Goku, Super Saiyan Full Power Gohan (no SSJ2 despite some misleading film cover art), Super Saiyan Trunks, Super Saiyan Vegeta, and Fused with Kami Piccolo (basically all the primary pre-Cell Games Z Fighters who weren't Saiyan, Hybrid Saiyan, or Namekian, with Krillin wisely opting to leave with Shamoians (hope I spelled that right), a drunk Roshi, and Oolong. While the Funimation dub isn't bad (not counting recent controversy involving Broly's original Funimation voice actor, but that that is no fault of the film or the dub itself) and I like the English soundtrack as the original score sounds too much like a Japanese Godzilla film for my tastes, they really messed up a great line from the original Japanese, which you may have heard in various video games (or watched it with the English subtitles for the Japanese dub over the dub audio like I do). It goes something like this: Piccolo: "''You, Monster. LSSJ Broly:"''Monster, I am a Devil!''" This exchange is just too good and is fittingly ironic given Piccolo's own demonic origins as the son/reincarnation of Demon King Piccolo and likely inspired DBS making it so that in Universe 6, Mutant Saiyans like Kale (and by extension the incarnations of Broly) are legendary demon warriors indicating that insane as he is OG Broly may have on some level recognized his own inherently demonic nature (however Kale and Canon Broly show that Legendary Saiyans can overcome the inherently demonic nature of their Legendary Super Saiyan forms like Piccolo did with his Namekian Demon Clansmen status (which he lost around the time Raditz and Goku died as they both went to Other World, which indicated Piccolo no longer retained said status as those killed by the Demon Clan are trapped in hellish limbo unless revived using a set of Dragon Balls, as Angels like Whis his sister who currently acts as attendant to Belmond of Universe 11 cannot resurrect anyone killed by a demon which is why Jiren's master and Belmond's old friend couldn't be revived by her).
UndyingHeart Пре 4 дана
I definitely agree that the Bojack Movie felt like the most canon, since it was after the cell saga, Gohan u locking Ssj2, Goku is dead, and future trunks returning to visit after a couple of months. Shame that it isn’t canon, it would’ve made sense
floooooooooooooooood Пре годину
Super Android 13 actually makes perfect sense if it's the timeline the Trunks that Cell killed was traveling to. Think about it we have A) Dead Dr Gero B) The androids defeated (judging by their casual atmosphere) C) Not discovered the underground lair D) No Cell This is a timeline where Trunks vaccinated Goku, 17 and 18 showed up, but with the help of Trunks they managed to defeat them. Trunks hangs out on Earth a little bit, then this movie happens. With the experience he gained fighting all these Androids, Trunks goes back to his future and defeats his 17 and 18, then he tries to come back to this timeline to tell everyone the good news, but instead he's ambushed by the Cell we know and love. The Trunks in the Super Android 13 movie is the same Trunks we see Cell kill in his backstory. That Trunks even used his sword to try and fight Cell like the one in this movie does.
floooooooooooooooood Пре 7 месеци
@SansWasTaken Cell traveled to the main timeline because 17 and 18 were dead in his timeline.
SansWasTaken Пре 7 месеци
Dude, the androids were probably still alive in that timeline, and cell travelled to the timeline we know just because there weren’t people to absorb since the androids killed them
ZanzibarWizard Пре 9 месеци
Ayeee great thinking bro
floooooooooooooooood Пре годину
@Saiyan Nopal We have no idea why the Android's got stronger. There is literally no explanation at all. It could be because Cell traveled back to the past, which he did so before Trunks. In either case the Android's seem closer to Trunk's counterpart given there's no sign of 16 at all.
Saiyan Nopal
Saiyan Nopal Пре годину
@floooooooooooooooood but it's not, the thing that made the androids "stronger" was the fact that trunks time traveled to the past and saved goku, if trunks was really there then the androids would be as strong as the normally would
Scott Fillinger 40k
Scott Fillinger 40k Пре 4 месеца
This is so great. I never even thought of the movies being sequels to themselves like that. And I thought it was funny that for some of them, they could be cannon. Great job.
WaterKirby1994 Пре 9 дана
9: Bojack Unbound actually gave a canon explanation for Vegeta getting out of his depression seen at the end of the Cell Game Saga that continued into the movie. There isn't really anything preventing it from being canon with Trunks having returned upon defeating the Androids & Cell of his future timeline & being about to return to the future for the last time (not counting Xeno stuff & Super) Movie 0: Bardock the Father of Goku was Canon except for the timelines where Gene & Bardock both sent Kakarot to Earth like Super Broly had. History of Trunks was also Canon it seems. Movie 13: Wrath of the Dragon, Next Most likely to happen canonically. Only thing complicating its existence are the Dragon Ball use with them being used to free Tapion & later undo the damage caused by Hirudegarn instead of immediately using them to erase everyone's memories of Majin Buu potentially. Why Movie 5 couldn't happen was comments made during the Cell Game Wait claiming that Goku didn't go on a fishing trip with Gohan since the Saiyan Saga meaning the camping trip probably couldn't have happened during the 3 Years of training for the Androids. Now for the clearly Noncanon Movies 1-4 were well explained as were 6: Return of Cooler & 7: Super Android 13 for why they couldn't have taken place. Xenoverse does a good job of having Turles timebreak during Saiyan Saga & Lord Slug timebreak during Namek Saga which is realistically when their movies were roughly being made. Cooler Timebreaks into the Frieza Fight while Meta Coolers appear at the Cell Games in a hilarious "The Cell Games will take on all challengers!" 1st Broly Movie could be explained as taking place during the Cell Game wait with Goku & Gohan taking a break from their Super Saiyan training for the school interview & Hercule having ended all panic regarding Cell although it isn't that likely & was completely removed from canon by Xenoverse & Super Broly. 2nd Broly Movie took place during training for the World Martial Arts Tournament if it were to happen. Bio Broly would have happened during the days that Goten & Trunks were training to defeat Majin Buu. Neither of these are canon without Movie 8 being canon. Movie 12 Fusion Reborn was so noncanon it hurts although Janemba interfering with Vegeta's return to Earth to fuse was great. I heard once that its likely Fusion Reborn happened in a timeline where Smitty & Van Zant didn't make Super Buu happen & Majin Buu was successfully reformed by Hercule.
Alex Zero
Alex Zero Пре 2 дана
Bardock father of Goku canon now only if you consider DBS as some other timeline, goku in DBS was 3-2 years old sent to earth
Don Kyle Fernandez
Don Kyle Fernandez Пре 28 дана
I was gifted the complete box set on my birthday... You're telling me this is a whole new 3rd cannon dbz-s universe to explore? That makes the gift even more perfect. Who's gonna be the boss battle of the Super universe or will the movies follow a SSJ4 version of Goku that didn't reach the time patrol? I'm so obsessed with the potential of this!
Bau Kim
Bau Kim Пре 2 месеца
I was about fourteen when I was thinking about the tree of might and trying to figure out when it would have happened. It felt like my whole world was shaken when I realized it couldn't have been part of the main story.
Dexenation Gracey
Dexenation Gracey Пре годину
Bojack is definitely the hardest one to debunk. Out of all of the movies it's probably the only one that can be considered canon.
Nas Ferg
Nas Ferg Пре 7 месеци
@History and Reviews wow gee like i did not know that
History and Reviews
History and Reviews Пре 7 месеци
Jeremy Mitchem
Jeremy Mitchem Пре 8 месеци
@Unforgiven11 I'd like Cooler, Janemba and Bojack. Not too into the idea of Turles or Garlic Jr. I'll accept Slug if it leads to Piccolo getting a power up to make him relevant again.
Joe Ker
Joe Ker Пре 8 месеци
@MarioSo will if you beat me in a debate on discord
Omari Пре 26 дана
“Our heroes have much bigger things to deal with than a comet”. Now that was a swell line. Glad you put that in.
Rikoyasha Пре 5 месеци
That's actually really interesting how the movies pretty much have the same timeline, which would mean some events we know in cannon world have to change to make the movies fit more naturally, like I think a reason we didn't see Buu in the last movie was cause either Buu didn't exist which is why all the other movies took place when they did in middle of Buu saga. I would say the saiyan events didn't happen in this timeline cause Garlic was the Raditz of that timeline but the major inconsistencie would be Vegata existing but a way I kinda see happening is maybe Raditz was with Vegeta and Nappa or Raditz came after Garlic in that timeline and ofc events being different but ends with same result would be interesting to see those events in more detail in like Xenoverse
Lucina Пре 4 месеца
I loved Dragon Ball Z as a kid, but I was too young to keep track of timelines and whether I was watching the tv series or movies. Once I started watching Kai years later in a consistent order, along with the discarding of filler episodes just left me even more confused. And once Super relaunched the series popularity, I thought for sure trying to make sense of the timeline would leave me with a headache. Thanks for explaining that's canon and not canon, you've (mostly) saved me from suffering!
Makoman295 Пре 6 месеци
I'm sure you get this a lot but you seriously nail the DBZ narrator voice
awesomo9 Пре 9 месеци
It's interesting to know that Bojack Unbound is the only DBZ movie that can actually happen.
@soogepoola "they are not canon", they were literally in the official manga scans which are canon and from toriyama. stfu 😂. the only reason he stopped doing them was bcuz pls were becoming too high and annoying to scale. plus including them takes out the "what-if" factors that a lot of manga artists like to have when being asked who would win between certain characters.
Thatonekiddo31 Пре месец
@soogepoola Ik he’s in the frieza saga but bardock from z isn’t canon because he got retconned
soogepoola Пре месец
@Thatonekiddo31 bardock is in the frieza saga... it appears in the episode that goku arrive to fight frieza and frieza sees him when he look at goku.
soogepoola Пре месец
@BOOTIEMON HD where did you get those numbers from? they are not canon because they are not in manga nor in anime. Yeah, maybe it was written in some sort of "official" book, but as long as it is not in the manga, or anime it is still not canon.
James Brown
James Brown Пре 5 месеци
Its easy to tell you respect the series, I'm glad someone finally made a video on this even if I am late to it.
Oblivion Link
Oblivion Link Пре 4 месеца
Dude you nailed it so hard absolutely loved this GREAT JOB man 👊
Bobby Baklava
Bobby Baklava Пре 27 дана
Seeing this video made me realize how much I love all of these movies Great content brother
Giacomo Delfin
Giacomo Delfin Пре 7 месеци
From what I remember hearing movies in shonen animes like DBZ worked more to advertise the next/current saga of the show. So the similarity to the sagas and continuity within them makes sense to make them appealing but also make people wanna watch longer versions of them (the anime itself)
Narutass43 Пре 4 месеца
@Giacomo Delfin Not really unnecessary. It's giving the animators and writers a bigger budget for one big episode that doesn't have to fit into canon. Animators get to stretch their legs a bit.
Giacomo Delfin
Giacomo Delfin Пре 7 месеци
In the case of DBZ is kinda unnecessary bc of it's popularity but they also had the budget to do alt versions of DBZ with movie quality so it's a win/win for fans and newcommers
Random Username
Random Username Пре годину
Fun thing about Dende being in movie 6 is that it happened 8 months before it happened in the manga. Yes the manga not the anime. Meaning that either Toriyama told the animators that far in advance, they guessed and got lucky, or they just said screw it and Toriyama liked the idea that much.
Mar Hawkman
Mar Hawkman Пре годину
@JoGeJo Just saying it's something worth keeping in mind when pondering how all this stuff came to be.
Mar Hawkman
Mar Hawkman Пре годину
@JoGeJo One thing people keep forgetting. Toriyama-sama didn't WRITE the DBZ movies... But that doesn't mean he wasn't involved. He actually drew character concept art to show the animators what characters should look like. In the case of Broly, Takao Koyama-san wrote the original Broly movie, but it was Toriyama-sama that designed the character appearance.
Simon 2517
Simon 2517 Пре годину
I also remember reading somewhere that we got vegito instead of gogeta because toriyama planned for a goku and vegita fusion. With most of the movies having that element i think the guys that made movies actually had some knowledge of what toriyama was going to do
Camel King Clarith
Camel King Clarith Пре годину
@JoGeJo guess my memory was off lol
Camel King Clarith
Camel King Clarith Пре годину
Bardock was included in a single panel flashback in the manga just because Toriyama really liked the tv special
Gene Ricky Shaw
Gene Ricky Shaw Пре 6 месеци
If I'm not mistaken, most of the movies came out during Golden Week and are mostly promotion movies and not really part of the actual storyline. Their lack of continuity makes sense that way. Still this was a cool compilation.
Dr. Beezy
Dr. Beezy Пре 12 дана
I definitely enjoyed this. Mainly cause I always tried to fit the movies in whatever type of order I believed them to be in based off the story and things like that. You pointed oht plenty things that I never thought about 😂💯
HD 04
HD 04 Пре 5 месеци
I would love to see a reboot of cooler in DBS. Imagine Cooler getting a redesign, and teaming up with Frieza, and also getting a new form.
TNT Section
TNT Section Пре 7 месеци
You should make a video on how the Movies COULD HAVE HAPPENED from the perspective of their own timelines!
Grey Пре 3 месеца
I like to think that "Fusion Reborn" happens in a timeline where Gohan defeated Majin Buu (instead of Goku with the spirit bomb). Maybe where Majin Buu didn't absorb Gotenks. But I think that there still be some plot holes.
Weed Goblin
Weed Goblin Пре 3 месеца
What do you mean 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Ikrani Пре 4 месеца
I feel like most of these movies could be integrated into the canon with some minor tweaks to the details. Broly and Super Android 13 could easily be slotted into the down time in the Android/Cell Saga.
TheEddie1910 Пре месец
just now found this. thank you! movies not accounting for anything we''e known as canon has bugged me for the longest time. I personally can only really count the original 42 manga as canon at this point, everything else defies canon or is just ridiculous in itself.
ChocolateFirefly Пре 4 месеца
Something interesting is that in between the Freeza and Android sagas, there are filler episodes with Garlic Jr. that specifically reference the Garlic Jr. movie and show his defeat of being launched into the dead zone by Gohan. Of course I skipped those episodes since they involve two conflicting timelines and had the bad guys being able to go up against Picollo even though he was fused with nail and would have been able to wreck them easily.
Yo Mama
Yo Mama Пре годину
I'm sure someone mentioned this, but another reason Broly can't happen is because Goku and Gohan pledged to stay in Super Saiyan until the Cell Games.
TrueSSJHavik Пре 8 месеци
@Palm TopTiger Raditz and Vegeta are 2 years older than Goku. Planet Vegeta's destruction... Goku was 3 and Vegeta was 5.
TrueSSJHavik Пре 8 месеци
@Daith Izumi Frieza first form is based on manga colors not Z anime
Grydon !
Grydon ! Пре 11 месеци
How are people seeing things that are not there? Bardock did NOT confront Frieza in the new Broly Movie, he literally was on the planet and triet to blast Frieza’s attack once it decended from space. It is 100% a retcon, as Frieza remembers the old Bardock in the manga
Lonewulf321 Пре 11 месеци
@Trey Stewart nah, not while the world is at stake. Doubt they would just drop it just for school.
SOUL Пре 4 месеца
I love this video more than I thought I would. But I gotta say I think cooler’s revenge definitely could of happened. Despite Gotham’s appearance matching his namek look he could of simply had a haircut in between the 3 year wait for the androids after trunk’s warning.
Kevin McPhee
Kevin McPhee Пре 4 месеца
Don't know if there was some sort of literature or mythical story behind these two, but when he got to talking about Turtles and the story about him and the tree of might, I definitely saw a familiarity between DBZ's Turtles and Naruto's Kaguya. Considering, Kaguya is part of a clan called the Otsutski and they go from planet to planet and dimensions to dimensions, sucking the life out the planet, thanks to the God tree that creates chakra fruit. Also, because of her position in the clan, she was chosen to sacrifice herself for the Ten Tails, only to betray her clan and eat the fruit herself, gaining immense power. Anybody else? Not complaining about either show/movie, but thought I mention it.
Lucky channel - 福チャンネル
Lucky channel - 福チャンネル Пре 4 месеца
I love the idea of there being multiple timelines, we already know about Future Trunks’ where Goku is no longer alive. I just hate how Toriyama never explored that further and conveniently forgot about it. Just like other dropped plot points such as the OTHER Sacred Kais: North, West, South and Grand, the current living one is the East one; and then casually introduced 11 other universes and again barely explained jack, only that universes 1-6 are mirrors of 7-12 🤦‍♂️
Sentinal Entity
Sentinal Entity Пре месец
@Agon Leed Nothing wrong with some good ol continuity tho lmfao. It's one of the things lacking from DB that most people can agree on- great fights but horrible/questionable continuity
Agon Leed
Agon Leed Пре 4 месеца
honestly not that serious lol. grow up in a time where this was just fun to watch. connect the shows to the show. read and manga. and enjoy the movies as it's own thing. never needing to connect anything all together. sure question a bit, but when you see it doesn't work...move on cause, who cares? it's Dragon Ball 🤣
RaphBlade7 Пре 4 месеца
I understand the argument for Cooler's Revenge, though personally I think it is one of the few that works canonically (if you ignore the mess that is The Return of Cooler, Battle of Gods, and Resurrection F, and DBS) with the main line continuity of DBZ (and possibly GT due to Cooler's Super 17 Saga cameo), and Bardock - The Father of Goku (as ignoring DBS means ignoring DBS: Broly, with Dragon Ball Minus being counted as in continuity with the DBS manga as the scene of Bardock:BR confronting Frieza:BR only appears in DBS:Broly). Many of the film's inconsistencies are due to film being in development around the same time as the manga was being published and them wanting to avoid spoilers for the Trunks Saga (with Frieza presumed to have died on Namek by Cooler, presumably due to Future Trunks destroying King Cold's spaceship (we're ignoring the Golden Frieza arc so Sorbet's spying has no bearing here) as King Cold may have kept Cooler in the dark about Frieza's Survival given his favoritism which works as it adds to Cooler's backstory of being in his prodigal younger brother's shadow (I still consider Frieza a prodigy regardless, even though we're ignoring the Golden Frieza arc), as Cooler's strength is seemingly due to effort as he could obviously conceal his Ki Signature given how he could sneak attack Piccolo when Frieza and King Cold were detected before they even made planet fall (it also explains why he only uses two forms as presumably he no longer required them as they are used to limit the users power allowing them to release it as needed though proper Ki Control makes them redundant). Goku was correct about Final Form Cooler (his badass armored form) being stronger than Frieza as while 100% Final Form Frieza was able to hold his own against Super Saiyan Goku (especially in the filler heavy anime) it put a strain on his body, making Cooler's Final Form stronger as it didn't strain his body (it should be noted that Super Saiyan Goku was stronger than when he fought Frieza by this point as he had trained on Yardrat and may have done some training to confront the Androids as he is shown practicing the Kamehameha at Kame House and had time to hone the Super Saiyan form ). Him taking the form after becoming enraged isn't inconsistent as even after achieving the form, Saiyans can still involuntarily transform when enraged (in the manga Future Trunks does this after Future Gohan's death as similar to his main timeline counterpart, he achieved the form off screen before he started training with Future Gohan; Gohan also went Super Saiyan involuntarily when Spopovich was brutally beating Videl) so Goku simply just had enough (presumably Goku was enjoying the challenge of fighting Cooler and had been going soft on him before this similar to how he admittedly held back killing Frieza on Namek as he admits this to Future Trunks after Frieza is slain) and recognized Cooler was as bad as his brother. Now the camping trip may seem out of place given the Z Fighters focus on training to confront the Androids but remember they had three whole years to train, so Goku, Gohan, and Krillin (Piccolo presumably was meditating or doing some training on his own as he can make clones to train with) could have simply been taking a break to rest their bodies (like Goku and Gohan did during the wait for the Cell Games) and would show that Goku isn't the horrible father everyone thinks he is (he's not perfect but most people tend to think he's as bad as TFS Goku, forgetting that it is parody that is simply poking fun at Goku's tendancy to be absent failing to recognize he is ultimately a well meaning father and grandfather, just not the best provider or role model when it comes to living a normal life (which is why Goku insists doesn't see himself as a hero in DBS as he fights simply because he enjoys it and protects the Earth because of the morals he learned from Grandpa Gohan, along the teachings of the Turtle School). Heck the scene of Goku telling Gohan to finish his homework causing Chi-Chi to fear there is something wrong with her husband as it is seemingly out of character (Goku just wanted Gohan to finish so they could go camping, and while he ultimately told Gohan to leave it for later, it shows Goku was at least willing to let him finish it before they went camping and Chi-Chi's reaction is sweet (as it is nice to see her have a different reaction, when Goku does something you'd think would make her happy, and that isn't just her getting mad, frustrated, or act insanely overprotective of Gohan that is too common in the anime, though there is less of this in the manga as Chi-Chi's actions are more reasonable (and only played up for humor sparrigly), as during the Battle on Planet Namek she is shown at home eating with her father, while the anime has her worrying about Gohan to the point of wanting to go to Namek, though its just filler that hurts her character). Sorry for going off a tangent there, but Cooler's Revenge is one of the better films and personally I think an iteration of its events could apply to DBS (have Cooler's ship detect Kakarot's unauthorized departure from Planet Vegeta in a space pod stolen by Bardock and Gine, only for Cooler to not intervene for the same reasons as he sees it as his brother's problem. The rest of the film could play out as is for the most part (Gohan regrowing his tail can still happen or not as events would only be slightly altered, Gohan could have met Icarus under different circumstances in the main DBZ/DBS continuity thus his inclusion isn't problematic, and Goku was simply holding back his Super Saiyan form until he realized he had no choice but to kill him, leading to Cooler getting thrust into the sun, where he presumably perished). Or maybe one day, DBS might introduce Cooler into the canon like Broly, either by remaking the film, imply some of the events happened like Cooler coming to Earth and getting shot into the sun (if the film follows Resurrection F model of having a previous villain return, which could also give us a canon interaction between the brothers should Frieza remain alive), and/or giving him an updated origin like Broly (completely or just tweaked slightly).
Matthew Hyman
Matthew Hyman Пре годину
I think Broly's motivation would be a lot better if Turles was the one who stabbed Broly
N'Geek Un'Gawa
N'Geek Un'Gawa Пре месец
@Kingofthe_humanz Yeah. Since a *lot* of Low Class Saiyans share hairstyles for some reason, Broly being a baby at the time he wouldn't be able to distinguish him from Turles, Bardock or any other Saiyan with the same hair. Neat theory.
Kru Пре месец
Broly's motivation would be better by having him hate goku for literally any other reason. Its honestly weird broly even remembers goku crying that deeply. Broly has been through so much trauma there are so many other things to give him motivation for being insane/goku.
Tane POE
Tane POE Пре 6 месеци
@Chaser Redthey look exactly alike. Would be mistaken identity
Brad Lee
Brad Lee Пре 6 месеци
I think at that time Turles was a baby also so he possibly couldn't do that
Xac Mashe
Xac Mashe Пре 6 месеци
@UCrxUr8CeEseHJy8ok3g_TNw you have a point. The Z Broly apologists really decided to come out the woodwork to defend this awful character the moment a better written version of him appears. Nothing that his been said in this comment thread excuses the bad writing used in Z Broly. "Maybe Saiyan babies have good memory?" Odd thing for them to have especially when they're bred for fighting. What use is there for memories of your infancy when all you do is fight shit? "Well Raditz expected Goku to remember him." I don't know why he thought that, not only does this never come up again with any other Saiyan, but when the fuck did Raditz have a chance to meet infant Goku not even a day after being born the planet was destroyed and Raditz was already offworld. "He heard Kakarot one time and associated that word that he wouldn't understand with the incessant crying." Right out of all the words that triggered Broly it was ONE SPECIFIC PROPER NOUN that stuck with him. Not only that but Paragus also happened to utter Kakarot FOR SOME REASON and that caused Broly to go berserk sometime before the movie happened. Never mind the fact that this fucking infant heard multiple sentences and then was caught in an explosion, and an explosion would probably be more of a trigger. Hell the sight of a knife would be a probable trigger. CRYING BABIES WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE. But no. It was the name Kakarot that he heard spoken in the middle of a fucking sentence. This INFANT internalized the word Kakarot which meant NOTHING TO HIM BECAUSE HE WAS AN INFANT and associated that RANDOM MEANINGLESS WORD with the crying next to him. Fuck off. Fuck RIGHT off.
Mehdishow Пре 6 месеци
This man is so underrated just give him the 100k subs man he deserves it
lightyearpig12 Пре 4 месеца
While I was watching this for the first time, I started coming up with a timeline where most of the movies can fit into the series, albeit with massive differences. 1. The World's Strongest is moved to taking place about two or three years after the Piccolo Jr. Arc. 2. Dead Zone occurs when Garlic Jr's men steal Gohan from Raditz, forcing Raditz to team up with Goku and Piccolo. 3. Goku runs into Turles and Lord Slug, who were about to turn the fake Namek into a Planet Cruiser after using the Tree of Might to drain its energy, on his way to Namek. 4. Cooler invades to avenge Frieza and King Cold. 5. Cooler merging with the Big Gete Star and attacking New Namek is noticed by Kami. 6. Androids 13, 14, and 15 attack during the ten days before the Cell Games as a posthumous effort by Dr. Gero to destroy Goku should 17 and 18 fail. 7. The Broly trilogy is ignored in favor of DBS Broly. 8. Bojack Unbound happens with barely any changes. 9. Fusion Reborn is a side-story à la History of Trunks and Bardock, focusing on Vegeta atoning for his sins by fighting to stop Janemba after his Final Explosion. Since Gogeta wasn't introduced in canon until after Buu, I decided to have Vegeta fuse with Pikkon instead of Goku. 10. Wrath of the Dragon happens during History of Trunks, which explains Future Trunks's sword. From Battle of Gods onwards, barely anything changes.
The Forgotten Game Corner
The Forgotten Game Corner Пре 2 дана
major issue with this, Pikkon isn't a canon character. If you are trying to make it fit into the canon of Z, unfortunately, he doesnt exist except in the filler tournament arc.
Mashrafe Elahi3
Mashrafe Elahi3 Пре 7 месеци
You know it would really helped if I watched this video while I was watching DBZ during childhood . It was too mysterious for I watched all the movie but couldn't related with main series so I was lot confused back then . So back then I thought of my own theory they might be in different timeline or universe or something .(Except for Broly movies before Toriama made Broly canon , I was one of them who rooted for Broly both before and after knowing it was noncanon
Jonathan Starnes
Jonathan Starnes Пре 5 месеци
Every DB fan knows this stuff…but it’s still interesting to see compiled like this. Great video 😁👍
Jonathan Starnes
Jonathan Starnes Пре 4 месеца
@LordChrome375 ah…I forgot about the children
LordChrome375 Пре 4 месеца
Basically 49 minutes to explain the movies are non canon for a reason. I guess newer fans need this info
Manuel Salazar
Manuel Salazar Пре годину
I always figured Cooler and revenge of cooler happened in a timeline in which the spirit bomb killed Frieza which resulted in Goku never having to go super Saiyan on namek. This would explain why they make such a big show of him going super Saiyan on earth, as it would be the first time he accesses the form in that timeline.
Dark Eco
Dark Eco Пре 5 месеци
Jordan Martinez
Jordan Martinez Пре 7 месеци
Same thing with the first two Broly movies; the first Broly movie happen after vegeta kills cell in his second form and the second happens after vegeta sacrifice against buu was successful
Milo WolfFace
Milo WolfFace Пре 10 месеци
@JoeMavro The films are still different timelines. They are not apart of the official canon. So it doesn't matter much. Plus Goku definitely needed the anger against cooler.
Grydon !
Grydon ! Пре 11 месеци
Anime1996 Goku did not hold back, he got his ass handed to him and everyone was in danger. He transformed again to the need and rage like on Namek, not from his own control which he did have already at the time this is supposed to take place. Cooler movie doesn’t fit
Karma Пре 4 месеца
Battle of Gods' timeline makes way more sense than in the anime. For example, Gohan and Videl are seemingly finished with high school despite less than a year passing, and Videl is already pregnant. (Gohan was literally 16 in the Buu saga.) In Battle of Gods, 4 years went by, which makes so much more sense.
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